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Re: White Gaditano project
beautiful bird alan....
very nice!!!
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7/5/2009, 6:32 pm
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Gary63
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Re: White Gaditano project
I am impressed Alan. You've done a very good job of developing what looks like a winner to me.
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7/5/2009, 6:42 pm
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Alan Bliven
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Re: White Gaditano project
Thank you!
I had a white horseman project going but once I got them going, I didn't like them that well and got out of them. But the bigger blowers like Gaditanos and Marcheneros look awesome in white.
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7/5/2009, 8:14 pm
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Re: White Gaditano project
nice bird, prefer orange eyes to bull. vic
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7/6/2009, 1:00 pm
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Re: White Gaditano project
Nice Alan! I had two whites last year do the same, but only 1 surprised me. I really love the white. Your birds are looking sooooo good!!!!
So, I got a surprise white out of ash red & qualmond mating. They have consistently given me a ash red & a black (I think black) for 10 rounds. The white was a shocker, no stained beak, but it is bull eyed, so remind me what that means in genetics. Does that mean it's grizzle ash red that created it ?
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7/8/2009, 7:02 am
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Alan Bliven
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Re: White Gaditano project
I believe having Ash Red Qualmond in the mix is a good idea. Qualmond is lightening gene and the more we have in the mix, the better chances we have at getting whites. In fact, homozygous Qualmond is nearly pure white in itself. Combine that with Ash Red homozygous grizzle and we are on our way. Qualmond will also lighten the beak.
The bull eyes wouldn't be caused from Grizzle Ash Red. It would have to be caused by Pied or Recessive White. But it seems strange that one of those factors is in your birds. I have never seen either of them in Gaditanos, and Pied is a fault in the breed. In order for it to Recessive White, both parents would have to carry it. I am just guessing here but it's possible the bird really don't have bull eyes. Many times young Qualmonds will have what they call "Almond Eye", which is a bull eye mimic. Once they mature the eye slowly turns orange like it is supposed to. Like I said, that's just a guess.
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Re: White Gaditano project
Very nice Alan. Now if you get an orange eyed white hen can you maintain this or will it always be something that produces "off results". Are there any smokey gaditanos? COuld it be possible to get orange eyed white that are homozygous for smokey?(therefore keeping the beaks clean
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7/8/2009, 9:32 am
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Alan Bliven
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In the early stages you will always get some with off results, that's why I believe it would be good to pile as many lightening factors in as possible. I am trying to do this without introducing a different breed.
Very good thought about Smoky. I would think that would be possible but I have no Smoky that I am aware of in my Gaditanos. However, Smoky could be the cause of the clear beak in this bird. It's so hard to ID Smoky when working with mostly white birds.
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Re: White Gaditano project
very lovely birds allan
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8/7/2009, 12:32 am
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