Rafeño Pouters by: Pablo Alfonso https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/t30 Runboard| Rafeño Pouters by: Pablo Alfonso en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:22:58 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:22:58 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: Rafeño Pouters by: Pablo Alfonsohttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p2608,from=rss#post2608https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p2608,from=rss#post2608  nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gaditano)Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:59:48 +0000 Re: Rafeño Pouters by: Pablo Alfonsohttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p2607,from=rss#post2607https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p2607,from=rss#post2607 nondisclosed_email@example.com (Pablo Alfonso)Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:38:39 +0000 Re: Rafeño Pouters by: Pablo Alfonsohttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p2135,from=rss#post2135https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p2135,from=rss#post2135I am glad you like them I will place morenondisclosed_email@example.com (Pablo Alfonso)Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:27:35 +0000 Re: Rafeño Pouters by: Pablo Alfonsohttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p2131,from=rss#post2131https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p2131,from=rss#post2131thanks for rafeno pics guys. cheers vicnondisclosed_email@example.com (vic8)Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:31:27 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p2124,from=rss#post2124https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p2124,from=rss#post2124Very beautiful portrait, Graeme. Hansnondisclosed_email@example.com (blacksnake4)Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:19:42 +0000 Re: Rafeño Pouters by: Pablo Alfonsohttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1583,from=rss#post1583https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1583,from=rss#post1583quote:mad manny wrote: nice rafenos pablo manny Gracias Manny; Do you have some Rafenos that you may want to share some pictures with us... I would love to see them...nondisclosed_email@example.com (Pablo Alfonso)Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:26:57 +0000 Re: Rafeño Pouters by: Pablo Alfonsohttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1574,from=rss#post1574https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1574,from=rss#post1574nice rafenos pablo mannynondisclosed_email@example.com (mad manny)Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:15:18 +0000 Re: Rafeño Pouters by: Pablo Alfonsohttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1538,from=rss#post1538https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1538,from=rss#post1538... nondisclosed_email@example.com (Pablo Alfonso)Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:56:44 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1537,from=rss#post1537https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1537,from=rss#post1537Hope you like nondisclosed_email@example.com (Pablo Alfonso)Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:50:43 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1442,from=rss#post1442https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1442,from=rss#post1442Thank you Mike, that's a very popular picture, it's nice when they are considered definitive.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Glassfeather)Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:00:17 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1436,from=rss#post1436https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1436,from=rss#post1436quote:MarcheneroMike wrote: There were some nice Rafeno in that collection Alan. The balcks had a resemblance to my old line. If you got them from a breeder in Colorado, they were my birds. The Rafeno really is my favorite pouter breed. I had very good luck with them in the show pen for a number of years. Gary send me your home address in a P.M. and I will send you copies of all of Franks articles that I have. Thanks Mike but Graeme has come to the rescue and is emailing me copies. nondisclosed_email@example.com (gazzman58)Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:17:24 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1435,from=rss#post1435https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1435,from=rss#post1435Beautiful painting of the Rafeno cock Graham. You are a very talented artist. I still remember the golden Jiennense you painted for Vincente Sanchez, very realistic!nondisclosed_email@example.com (MarcheneroMike)Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:44:29 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1434,from=rss#post1434https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1434,from=rss#post1434There were some nice Rafeno in that collection Alan. The balcks had a resemblance to my old line. If you got them from a breeder in Colorado, they were my birds. The Rafeno really is my favorite pouter breed. I had very good luck with them in the show pen for a number of years. Gary send me your home address in a P.M. and I will send you copies of all of Franks articles that I have. nondisclosed_email@example.com (MarcheneroMike)Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:20:07 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1433,from=rss#post1433https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1433,from=rss#post1433Has anyone got copies of Franks articles on Spanish Pouters. I have copies of his Profile On Pouters articles on Marcheneros and Valenciana's but would like to read the rest. Garynondisclosed_email@example.com (gazzman58)Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:20:59 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1432,from=rss#post1432https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1432,from=rss#post1432They are lovely pouters Rafeños, I really enjoyed Frank Barrachina's articles Mike, they were good and informative. This is a Rafeño in a Scottish Dookit, and a pastel portrait of mine: nondisclosed_email@example.com (Glassfeather)Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:56:36 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1431,from=rss#post1431https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1431,from=rss#post1431Here's some pics of the rafenos I used to have. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gaditano)Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:05:00 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1430,from=rss#post1430https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1430,from=rss#post1430Rafeno History Anyone? I was asked to describe the origin of the Rafeno, here goes. The Rafeno was originaly from Africa, brought to Europe by the Arabs during the Spanish conquest. It was describes as early as the 14th century. Much more information on the breed occured in the 17th and 18th centuries. Although there were no "written standards" long ago,this breed had an oral standard. That standard has lasted to this day - over 1000 years unchanged The breed in early days was almost exclusively developed in Seville. There it was much loved for its powerful ways of seduction. It was said to be the hottest of all the Spanish pouters in olden times. The first Rafenos came to America in the 50's. They have been imported several times times since. They seemed to have had their heyday in the 80's and 90's when several importations were made by FLA. and CA. breeders. Good numbers were being bred and shown throughout the country at that time. Also contributing to their popularity (and the popularity of all the Spanish pouters breeds) was the fact that Frank Barrachinna was writing many fine articles for the now defunct Pigeon Fancier Magazine. Why is it not as popular today? Who knows for sure, but the Rafeno is a fine little breed that deserves attention by the discriminating Spanish Pouter fancier. But be prepared, they do require additonal care. You MUST HAVE feeders for this breed. Also extra care must be taken to keep the nostrils clear and their beaks trimmed! It is also a good idea to use a fine emery board to file the wattles to keep them looking clean (all wattled breeds).nondisclosed_email@example.com (MarcheneroMike)Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:34:12 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1337,from=rss#post1337https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1337,from=rss#post1337Alan - You are correct sir, I sent some Cat's down to Florida and a few extra Jiennense. I got some nice Rafeno and a "pet" thief pouter. I will be training him for table show competition! Gary - When my niece gets some time I will try and have her post some pics of all of my birds on the Spanish pouter topic site. Mikenondisclosed_email@example.com (MarcheneroMike)Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:31:32 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1334,from=rss#post1334https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1334,from=rss#post1334Let me guess, you guys traded Cats for Rafenos and Jiennense? nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gaditano)Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:57:42 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1331,from=rss#post1331https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1331,from=rss#post1331your very welcome my friend like i told you when im done with michael jackson he is yours talk to you soon manny nondisclosed_email@example.com (mad manny)Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:56:55 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1330,from=rss#post1330https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1330,from=rss#post1330Post some pics of them Mike. I would love to see them. Garynondisclosed_email@example.com (gazzman58)Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:23:29 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1327,from=rss#post1327https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p1327,from=rss#post1327I just recieved my 2 pair of Rafeno pouters from Manny Garcia today. They are very good birds. They remind me of my old stock from Frank Soto. The white cock had the blockiest head I have seen in a long time. The little black white flight looked exactly like a Champion I had years ago. Who says there are no good Rafeno in the states? Thanks Manny!nondisclosed_email@example.com (MarcheneroMike)Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:25:36 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p653,from=rss#post653https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p653,from=rss#post653  happy campernondisclosed_email@example.com (impoutin)Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:08:58 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p652,from=rss#post652https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p652,from=rss#post652 hi guys thank you for the info cant wait to get more have a great night impoutinnondisclosed_email@example.com (impoutin)Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:07:44 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p650,from=rss#post650https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p650,from=rss#post650There ya go. Manny's email address is: manolo_garcia68@yahoo.com ... thank you Bob! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Alan Bliven)Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:49:16 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p649,from=rss#post649https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p649,from=rss#post649Poutin, Here is his email address: manolo_garcia68@yahoo.com The best Spanish Pouters I've ever seen have come from him. He has helped me so much with Marcheneros, Gaditanos, and Rafenos. He is a true friend and very trustworthy. Tell him I sent you. Bobnondisclosed_email@example.com (Slobberknocker)Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:57:07 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p648,from=rss#post648https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p648,from=rss#post648hi all im looking for a guy name manny garcia i bought some birds from him a couple of years ago the best birds ever i need his email or phone ive looked and cant find any birds that compare to his birds please let me know if you know how to contact him i for once find the best around and loose contact any help is great i would be greatfull of offers but am only interested in buying birds from mr garcia thanks all im poutinnondisclosed_email@example.com (impoutin)Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:53:30 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p135,from=rss#post135https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p135,from=rss#post135My post is not a slight on Bob's Rafeños or anyone else's. Please don't take it that way. I have never had any of Bob's Rafeños. I've seen a few pictures on his website but pictures don't tell the story one way or another.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gaditano)Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:45:55 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p130,from=rss#post130https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p130,from=rss#post130Pablo, I have some good Rafenos. You can see them on my website at http://www.slobberknockerlofts.com or email me at mcguan@charter.net Bobnondisclosed_email@example.com (Slobberknocker)Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:35:31 +0000 Re: Rafeño Poutershttps://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p129,from=rss#post129https://bpoutersandcroppers.runboard.com/p129,from=rss#post129Pablo, No, I don't. Good ones are hard to find. Mine were OK but they weren't extreme enough compared to those in Spain. Be careful when buying them, there's a lot of poor specimens going around. Like most Spanish breeds, there's a lot of crossing going on and people selling them with a breed name. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gaditano)Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:35:13 +0000