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Re: Rare homing breeds?


And my final bit of info from an Aussie site:

The early development of the Belgian Racing Homer took two distinct lines in three areas, Antwerp, and the neighbouring districts of Leige & Verviers. In Antwerp, various crosses of “Smerle” and “Cumulet” were used. The English varieties of the “Carrier”, “Dragoon” and “Horseman” (similar to the Carrier and derived from Persia via Egypt and Turkey) were added to produce a very successful flying bird which became known as the “Antwerp”. The “Antwerp”, probably due to the English Carrier cross, was a heavier bodied and bolder headed than the Leige and Verviers type. They raced very reliably in flights from London to Antwerp.
Concurrently with the development of the Antwerp racer in Antwerp, the fanciers of Liege and Verviers districts were developing one of their own, independently of Antwerp and, to a great extent, of one another. The fanciers of the Leige district used a cross of the frilled Owl or Turbit with the Cumulet and a descendant variety of the Eastern Carrier which for many years had been living wild in Belgium, produced the “Smerle” of Leige which was distinguished for its racing ability. It is well known that as far back as the 1820’s the Verviers and Leige pigeons were flying 500 miles on the day. There were several varieties of semi-wild pigeons, survivors of the domesticated varieties of previous ages in Western Europe, which may have been used at first experimentally, by the Belgians in the early development of the modern racing pigeon. It is for this reason that different districts evolved distinct and different types but although at first distinct and varying origin, the Liege and Verviers pigeons did not differ greatly in type or characteristics – certainly not so much as both differed from the Antwerp.

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Check this guy out. He is 1/4 Dragoon and 3/4 top racing blood. When paired back to a good racer he has produced a 2nd-place diploma winner and two additional birds that placed in the top 20% at the club level over the last two years.

I am thinking about using him to revive the old flying type Dragoon

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I like this birds color.

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You have already reproduced the old Dragoon, dude! Nice work. Homer crosses with English Owls make nice Antwerps that FLY well at short distances (made that cross in 1969). I've never tried using Chinese Owls, but African Owls might work. Years ago (1970-71)I crossed Show type racing pigeons with homers to fly them out to 200 miles. One of them flew 500 miles NEXT day; the real racers made it 500 miles ON THE day.

Nice bird, Alan. Would produce cracker jack Radars methinks.

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Good idea about the Radars, never thought of that emoticon

What did your Show Type Homers/Racing Homers look like?


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I used show type homers from Edgar Griffiths, Llanelly, Wales, to cross with the racing homers. They already had some flying type to them, but most had that luxurious feather, wonderful body, and beautiful head shape still found on Non-flown or show type homers.

So . . . the look of the crosses varied from fairly plain ole homers to beautiful homers with show type. Some of those crosses bred back to my Antwerps were nice lookers as well and put "body" on the 'Twerps. Took two more crosses back to pure Antwerps to get the beak back, especially on the short-faced birds. But that's what I do best--mess up gene pools to improve them--usually!

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