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Ebony


This is Ebony, she is new to my Gaditano family. I love the deep shiny black color she carries. My other blacks do not have this nice of color. She has some factors in her my others don't have. I am going to try and reproduce her color.

She is very tame and flirts with me every time I come in the room. I have her in a cage in the fish room while she acclimates.

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Beautiful bird.
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Her color is gorgeous!!

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Alan, what other factors are in her? Mine start out fairly shiny , but once they fill in they just seem to keep getting duller as they age.

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I am not sure what else is in her. But to make good Blacks I believe you need to start out with homozygous Spread on a dark T-Pattern base with some of the darkening factors such as Homozygous Smoky and/or Dirty. She has a very dark beak so I suppose she has Dirty in her.

Bronzing helps the iridescence. In other words, we are basically talking about a good Kite as the base color.

You need homozygous Spread because the pattern can often be seen in the usual place on the wing shield showing through the spread. If in the homozygous state, spread does a more complete and even job of spreading the pigment on the shield.

You need a T-Pattern base for the same reason. It stops the check or bar patterns from showing through on the spread. Also, T-Pattern is much darker than check or bar and gives a dark base cover.

Ideally you are looking at a homozygous Spread, dark Kite Bronze, with Dirty, Homozygous Smoky and Grease Quills. If you can't get all these together, use Spread, with a Kite base and Dirty or Smoky and you should come up with some very nice Blacks and then select from there.

Smoky will give you the light colored beak, Dirty a black beak. However, sometimes Dirty will put small white marks on the black. Dirty in some breeds often results in white eye tic, small spots of white on the back, around the vent or at the hocks.

I am now asking the lady I bought her from what she produced when she was mated to her last mate, a Blue Bar. That's should give me more of a breakdown of what she's made of. If all she ever produced with the Blue Bar was more Blacks, we know she is homozygous for Spread.

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Aumber said it would be easier to just go steal your bird. I reminded her about your doggies! She decided to stick with learning the genetics. emoticon LOL

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Very nice. Have you asked the breeder if she was black legged in the nest? That would be the easiest way to tell if she is dirty. I would love to see a dirty blue bar gaditano. Is dirty in any of the Spanish croppers?
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This probably sounds stupid, but why would you want a dirty blue bar? What does the dirty do?

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I have one & it's very stricking in color, well at least I think it's beautiful. ;)

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MattCoonDAWG wrote:

Very nice. Have you asked the breeder if she was black legged in the nest? That would be the easiest way to tell if she is dirty. I would love to see a dirty blue bar gaditano. Is dirty in any of the Spanish croppers?



The seller bought her in Miami for like 250.00 and used her for one season, so she can't tell me if she's Dirty or not. But I think she is because when I asked her what colors she produced she said a Blue Bar (that means she carries bar) and a "smutting looking gray" bird (sounds like Dirty).

I have a lot of Dirty in my Gaditanos. It's mainly in the Torts and Black Mottles. I am not sure about the other breeds.

I wonder if there's anyway to tell if an adult Black bird has the Dirty factor?

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